tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6611875170009784219.post7605632510294456792..comments2024-03-15T12:42:11.939-04:00Comments on Noblemania: Contract between Bill Finger and Bob Kane or Bill and DC?Marc Tyler Noblemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10732005290440645718noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6611875170009784219.post-17346469564709427412014-07-24T03:26:47.714-04:002014-07-24T03:26:47.714-04:00Good points, Bob. Agree that DC probably paid Fox....Good points, Bob. Agree that DC probably paid Fox. And that Finger and Kane were still working together when Robin debuted.Marc Tyler Noblemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10732005290440645718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6611875170009784219.post-39567302526655932462014-07-23T23:27:13.220-04:002014-07-23T23:27:13.220-04:00Couple posters made errors here. Finger did not w...Couple posters made errors here. Finger did not write Detective 29 either. Fox wrote 29-34, a total of 6 issues.<br /><br />Finger wrote only the 2 page origin in #33.<br /><br />Who paid Fox for 29-34? DC or Finger? I assume DC. That puts the character squarely under DC's control.<br /><br />So in the Steranko book, if Finger said he was hired after about six months, he may mean 6 stories he wrote. This would coincide with 'Tec #38, coincidently the first Robin. I got the impression Finger was still working directly for Kane when Robin was created, so the DC hiring was probably shortly after that time (early 1940?)Bob Rivardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09345116240123706105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6611875170009784219.post-52965053477986682222014-07-23T20:39:25.452-04:002014-07-23T20:39:25.452-04:00T.V. Barnum,
At least six sources, including two ...T.V. Barnum,<br /><br />At least six sources, including two DC publications and Bob’s autobiography, credit Bill with the origin in Detective #33:<br /><br />#1 BATMAN: THE COMPLETE HISTORY (authorized DC book), page 33: “…when Bill Finger returned in Detective #33 (November 1939) it was with the most famous Batman tale of all time, the origin story”<br /><br />#2 DC COMICS: A CELEBRATION OF THE WORLD’S FAVORITE COMIC BOOK HEROES (authorized DC book), page 34: credits origin jointly to Bob and Bill <br /><br />#3 BATMAN AND ME (Bob Kane’s autobiography), page 104: “Bill and I collaborated on the origin”; we know that Bob took credit for as much as he could, so when he DID credit anyone else for anything, it is especially worth paying attention to<br /><br />#4 Grand Comics Database, http://www.comics.org/issue/560/ (heavily researched by longtime comics scholars): “Contains a 2 page origin sequence, the 'original' origin. Written by Bill Finger (credit from Craig Delich and Martin O'Hearn, October, 2005).”<br /><br />#5 MEN OF TOMORROW, page 350: attributes origin to Bill<br /><br />#6 http://www.supermanartists.comics.org/dchistory/DCHISTORY-1.htm: “November 1939, Bill Finger writes a two page origin of Batman which is pasted on to the beginning of Gardner Fox's story in Detective 33.”<br /><br />#7 BATMAN CHRONICLES, VOLUME 1 credits Gardner Fox for “Dirigible” but does NOT credit Fox or anyone else with writing the two-page origin preceding it; the second telling of the origin from Batman #1 is credited to Finger; HOWEVER, since the second telling is virtually IDENTICAL to the first, DC surely would’ve credited Fox AND Finger if Fox wrote the first version; in any case, such speculation is moot given the above, particularly #s 1-3Marc Tyler Noblemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10732005290440645718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6611875170009784219.post-40575007029514256412014-07-23T19:31:41.959-04:002014-07-23T19:31:41.959-04:00Garner Fox wrote the Batman stories in Detective #...Garner Fox wrote the Batman stories in Detective #30-#34,not Bill, but Bill is credited as having written the stories in #35 and after. <br /><br />http://www.dcindexes.com/features/database.php?site=dc&pagetype=creator&id=23<br /><br />So there's a gap. But who wrote the origin in issue #33 - Gardner or Bill? <br />"T.V. Barnum"https://www.blogger.com/profile/00475339068236956242noreply@blogger.com