Showing posts with label sexual orientation. Show all posts
Showing posts with label sexual orientation. Show all posts

Thursday, April 24, 2025

Rally at the Supreme Court to support inclusive education

On 4/22/25, I attended my first Supreme Court rally. In fact, though I’ve lived in the Washington DC area for 15 years, it may have been the first time I’d been in front of the Supreme Court.


Despite the impression that photo gives, the rally was well attended.

It coincided with oral arguments for Mahmoud vs. Taylor, a case about a Maryland school district policy that does not allow parents to opt their children out of educational experiences (in particular, picture books) that mention the existence of LGBTQ people. 

It happens to be my school district, Montgomery County. I am proud that MCPS enacted this policy and, frankly, furious that people who see the world as it is have to spend so much time (and money) trying to explain the basic principle of “live and let live” to people who expect schools to bend to their intolerant worldview.


Those protesting the policy carried signs reading “Let parents parent” and “Let kids be kids.” 

This policy does not prevent parents from parenting or kids from kidding. 

When I walked to the opposing side to be available for conversation (knowing no sign would change anyone’s mind), one man civilly engaged, though his position was savagely misguided. A rule he has for his kids: you cannot be gay. 

If only he’d learned in school that this is not how it works. Being gay is not a choice (or a performance/disease/brainwashing), as some conservatives believe. It’s simply what some people are.

A parent who has challenged the policy asked me to leave their area. When I politely declined, he tattled on me to a Supreme Court police officer, whose response was “Just don’t shout at them.” (No one was shouting at anyone. In other words, he knew I had every right to be where I was.)

NBC News asked me some questions. 


The short clip also includes someone who thinks he is protecting his grandkids from “values” he doesn’t agree with. Based on what we’ve widely seen from Generation Z, it seems likely that those grandkids will reject their grandfather’s repugnant stance.


Among the thousands of comments on YouTube, TikTok, and Instagram, ones disagreeing with me alternate between these points:

  1. Check this guy’s hard drive.
  2. People like you are why Trump won again.
  3. So public schools can also teach the Bible?

(Sometimes this is expressed in language that is decisively not biblical.)

As for the Trump comment, it carries weight. But I’m not one to abandon my principles over an election, even one as ruinous as this one is. 

The commenters agreeing mostly echo the sign I held: education does not equal indoctrination.

It is illogical that some adults believe that a relationship between a man and a woman is an acceptable topic for kids but no other kinds of relationships are. 

It is illogical that some adults do not associate the mere mention of a straight relationship with sex but do associate the mere mention of a gay relationship with sex.

(It should go without saying, but since the anti-gay crowd brings it up incessantly, apparently this does need to be spelled out: in neither case are responsible adults talking to elementary kids about sex.)

Children who are not LGBTQ and learn that this community exists are not hurt by that knowledge.

Conversely, children who are LGBTQ—or who have LGBTQ families members—are hurt by policy that forbids that topic to even be mentioned. (And when disapproving adults do mention it, it’s to call gay people perverts and sinners, deepening the wound.)

We don’t hear about religious teens committing suicide because they know about gay people. 

We do hear about LGBTQ teens committing suicide because their community doesn’t want to know about gay people.

If the opponents to this policy truly cared about protecting kids, they’d switch sides.

Again, what kids learn in school—and in life—does not prevent parents from parenting. Unfortunately, some parenting prevents kids from learning.

Tuesday, March 12, 2024

Northside ISD was WRONG to cancel author Marc Tyler Nobleman

Welcome school principals, school librarians, and PTA members!

If you are here because you searched “marc nobleman author visit” or “marc nobleman school visit” or “marc tyler nobleman author visit” or “marc tyler nobleman school visit,” your results probably also included a possibly paywalled article with this headline:


Northside ISD is a Texas school district.

The article was written by Nancy Preyor-Johnson and published on 10/6/23 in the San Antonio Express-News.

Nancy did not hear my talk.

The article is wrong.

Northside ISD was wrong to cancel my author visit. 

Rather than judge me based on only that one Texas headline, please read this (or at least skip to the Northside educator tweets at the end):

I went to do school visits in Northside ISD in good faith and treated all with respect, as I have at hundreds of other schools in 30+ states and almost 20 countries over the past 20 years.

I gave the same talk I’ve given hundreds of other times.

Three examples of the kind of reaction I typically get:

“In my almost three decades of teaching, I have heard a wide variety of internationally known authors, many of them award recipients. Marc was easily the most engaging and inspiring presenter I have ever heard. He held the rapt attention of the entire auditorium—students and staff alike. He is such a gift!”
—Adrienne DeMichele, Taipei American School, Taiwan

“My principal and almost every teacher said this was the best assembly they have ever attended. Educational value? 5 out of 5 stars. Entertainment value? 5 out of 5 stars. Marc’s amazing story kept an entire room of students and teachers enthralled for an hour with no special effects or tricks.”
—Jamie Harris, librarian, Smalley Elementary, Las Vegas, NV

“I have known Marc for eight years and I can tell you with complete honesty that he is the best, the very best, in inspiring children. He is able to empathize with them (and adults, also) to an incredible degree. As a matter of fact, he becomes a role model for many of them. One fifth grader wrote in his evaluations, ‘Mr. Nobleman’s name fits him. He is a noble man.’ His books have the same kind of integrity. I cannot recommend him highly enough.”
—Susie Mee, Director, Authors Read Aloud (a Learning Leaders program), New York, NY

My talk lasts 60 minutes.

In that talk, I say that someone was gay. One time.

I also refer to straight marriages. Multiple times.

I was scheduled to speak at Northside schools for 10 days. 

The first nine days went great. 

Except for the two parents who contacted their school because I said “gay.”

Neither had heard my talk, read my books, seen my documentary, or met me.

Yet their complaint pressured Northside into giving me a choice: leave out the word “gay” on day 10 or there is no day 10. 

Whether my presentation was censored or cancelled, it would shortchange the kids. Ultimately I felt that the best way to stand up for those kids would be to stick to my principles.

So there was no day 10.

The kids were disappointed. School staff was disappointed. I was heartbroken.

But the people who truly suffered were the LBGTQ members of the Northside ISD community. Northside ISD’s action signals to them that their very existence is taboo to mention. Northside ISD made them feel unwanted and unsafe.

Northside ISD was wrong to cancel my author visit. 

Northside ISD prioritized the ignorance of two adults over the enrichment of hundreds of kids.

Northside ISD was wrong to cancel my author visit. 

Because two adults thought kids should not hear the word “gay,” those kids also did not hear a jaw-dropping story of persistence. They did not hear about the adventure of primary research, the thrill of reading, the calling of speaking up for others, and the imperative to give credit where it’s due. 

Northside ISD was wrong to cancel my author visit. 

But hopefully a message from my story did trickle down to at least some NISD day 10 kids from enlightened NISD educators and parents: when you have to choose between siding with the tolerant or the intolerant, there is no choice. 

Northside ISD was wrong to cancel my author visit. 

In closing, here are reactions to my talks from NISD educators (i.e. people who did hear me present and who have the best interest of the kids at heart):





Monday, December 4, 2023

George Takei of "Star Trek" weighed in on Georgia schools censoring "gay"

I'm beaming this up a bit late, but it's lost none of its potency.

In August, elementary schools in Georgia gave me a choice: leave out the word "gay" from my author presentations or leave. I left. News coverage.

Outspoken and uncompromising Star Trek actor/activist George Takei took notice...and took no prisoners:


Note: I added George himself.

Saturday, October 28, 2023

My first drag queen interview

That could be the title of a picture book! 

Or, these days, perhaps not.

First, an unfortunately familiar recap:

  • In August, in Georgia, the Forsyth County School District asked me to omit the word “gay” from assemblies for elementary students in grades 3 and up or leave. I left.
  • In September, on the eve of my tenth and final scheduled day of talks in Northside Independent School District (San Antonio), the same thing happened.

Intolerance does have an upside: it gets people talking (and, hopefully, reflecting). 

A drag queen named Amber LeMay invited me to discuss these incidents on her YouTube show.


I rarely do podcasts or other streaming interview shows, especially on a topic that the press has already widely covered, but couldn’t resist this. Amber was a gracious host and a savvy interviewer.


Thank you, Amber, for your compassion and time!

Friday, October 27, 2023

“San Antonio Express-News” says school district was right to cancel me

In August, in Georgia, the Forsyth County School District asked me to omit the word “gay” from assemblies for elementary students in grades 3 and up or leave. I left.

In September, on the eve of my tenth and final scheduled day of talks in Northside Independent School District (San Antonio), the same thing happened.

Nancy M. Preyor-Johnson, Deputy Editorial Board Editor & Columnist for the San Antonio Express-News, reached out multiple times for comment. I naively thought her take, like most of the other mainstream press coverage (from the New York Times to the Associated Press), would be in favor of treating all people with respect, as I did in her community, but I was wrong.


Excerpt of my reply to Nancy:

I find it unfortunate that, while you seem to agree with me, the headline (which is all many will read) gives no sign of that. It will fuel the hatefulness of the intolerant.

I also find it unfortunate that your article fails to explain WHY it would be inappropriate to say “gay” to 8-10-year-olds in the context I do. Just because a minority of parents do not like gay people does not mean that gay people do not exist or that it is fine to refer to straight people but not gay people in equally nonsexual terms.

I do appreciate you mentioning that members of the community DID see the value of my visit. 

She replied that she respects me and mostly agrees with me, but that younger students and their parents (emphasis mine) need to be treated differently in conservative states. 

My reply:

They don’t. Precisely my point. Who gay people love is not political to them, just like who you love is not political to you.

Your article could’ve done some good in a community that is not fully living in the 21st century, but instead it will embolden harmful prejudices and make LGBTQ people feel unsafe and unwanted in San Antonio.

By the by, here are reactions to my talks from NISD educators (i.e. people who heard me present and who have the best interest of the kids at heart):







Sunday, October 1, 2023

Censored for saying "gay" in Texas elementary schools (one month after Georgia)

A month after I was censored for saying "gay" during elementary school visits in Georgia, it happened again in Texas.

I must make clear that my experience in the schools themselves (as you will see below) was 100% positive.

Which makes the decision that superintendents made all the more misguided.

The letter I sent to administrators of Northside Independent School District (San Antonio):

Hope you are all well. 

I am the children's author who had the privilege of speaking at 11 eleven NISD schools from 9/18-28, but whose final visit scheduled for 9/29 (Henderson ES) was canceled the night before because two parents complained that I say the word "gay."

Neither the two parents who complained nor whichever of you canceled my talk have heard my talk, read my book, seen my documentary, or met me.

I came in good faith to your districtand hundreds of other communities in 30+ states and almost 20 countries over the past 20 yearsto share a multi-layered inspirational message. Hundreds of your kids will attest that I more than delivered on that. So did your staff:



 


(this tweet discovered/added here after emailing administrators)

"Gay" is simply a way to refer to a kind of love, as appropriate as mentioning a straight relationship (which I did multiple times, with no pushback).

The two parents whose ignorance you prioritized over a "amazing/inspiring/intriguing/captivating" presentation are not the victims. They have not and will never suffer because other people love differently than they do.

The victims are the LBGTQ members of your community because your action signals to them that their very existence is taboo to mention. You make them feel unsafe and unwanted.

I spoke with one of the parents who complained. I appreciated that he was willing to connect by phone, but he mostly raged and did not try to reflect on the bigger picture. He could not distinguish between sexual orientation (again, a topic kids as young as two understand) and sex. He said his kid does not need to hear about "Batman fucking Spider-Man." He said this will not end well for me. He said "You messed with the wrong person." This is the person you are defending.

When you have to choose between catering to tolerant or intolerant people, there is no choice

You gave in to the wrong side, and if you continue to do that, your legacy will be on the wrong side of history. Upholding discriminatory practices like this will drive more and more good educators and families from your district.

This happened to me in Georgia in August, and the national response was not favorable to people in your position. Here is just some of the press:


It is about to make the San Antonio press as well.

But you can still turn this into a positive by doing the following:

  1. apologizing to your community for putting the comfort of two people over the enrichment of an entire school by censoring an established author
  2. changing your (unwritten?) policy that stigmatizes the word "gay" in a country where same-sex marriage is legal and a district where gay people live, teach, and learn

I have also posted this letter publicly.

I remain optimistic that I can return to NISD to continue to share my messages of persistence, the adventure of primary research, the thrill of reading, the calling of speaking up for others, the need to give credit where it's due, and tolerance. 

Toward the end of my talks, I say: "Every change in history, no matter how big, starts with one person."

Which of you will be that person in Northside?

10/6/23 addendum: Here is local press coverage. It is not good.

Friday, September 22, 2023

Georgia schools censoring the word "gay": reaction continues

In August 2023, elementary schools in Forsyth County, GA, asked me to leave out the word "gay" from my presentation or leave.

I left.

The incident made national news.

After the Associated Press story posted 9/20/23, many other major outlets picked it up. A sampling (sorry for so many shots of my punim):










The night before, the Forsyth County Board of Education held its first meeting since my school visits, and four members of the community spoke about inclusiveness and censorship. 

The first video is the complete meeting, cued to the comments from the four advocates for compassion. The second video is a highlight reel of those comments.



One Forsyth County Instagrammer said this:

"Schools are not the place for what he is promoting. Take it somewhere else."

I rarely reply in such cases, but did this time:

"I was promoting persistence, primary research, reading, speaking up for others, giving credit where it's due, and tolerance. Which topic in particular do you think I should take somewhere besides schools?"

Thursday, September 7, 2023

What hath “gay” wrought: Georgia schools censor me and harm their own community

Here we gay again.


During my first elementary school assembly of the 2023-24 school year, in Forsyth County, GA, I (as usual) told the audience that the son of Batman co-creator Bill Finger was gay—and the batshit immediately hit the fan.

Intolerance of this nature is not new for Forsyth County schools…or for me:

  • A parent complained after a talk in Illinois.
  • Ugliness erupted during a talk in Maryland.
  • A principal in Michigan tried to censor me.

However, I’ve also seen growth:


But in Forsyth County, the situation escalated as it never had before.

The gay play-by-play, day-by-day:

I went to Georgia to speak at three Forsyth elementary schools, one per day, three talks per school, one grade per talk (3rd, 4th, 5th). 

Monday 8/21/23, school 1: Sharon Elementary

As mentioned above, in my first talk here, I said “gay.” 

Afterward, my host, the librarian, expressed concern due to the intolerant history of the community. I asked her to invite the principal, Brian Nelson, to the second talk, which she did. He came shortly after I’d started. He and other staff conferred in the back of the room.

Midway through my presentation, he handed me this note:


I was not surprised. I was infuriated. 

Because I did not want to create a stir in front of the kids, I acquiesced. Then I was infuriated at myself.

Afterward, the principal and I had a civil 40-minute conversation in the library. He asked me not to say “gay” in the last talk, citing heated school board meetings. Like the librarian, he exuded nervousness.

I said we cannot kowtow to those who hate/negate/discriminate, no matter how loud and unrelenting that faction is. 

I gestured to a displayed book about professional baseball players and trotted out the refrain that exposing kids to that book does not mean you are trying to turn them into baseball players.

He was not swayed.

He is Black (in the south) and I am Jewish; I said that our people have been persecuted throughout history, and we cannot let it happen to others now.

He was not swayed.

I said that in my 20 years speaking to kids of all ages in 30+ states and almost 20 countries, I’ve been asked to leave out the word “gay” a handful of times but did so (again against my better judgment) only once, due to extenuating circumstances. I said you don’t want your school to join this shameful list.

He was not swayed.

So because I was already on site and some kids had already heard my presentation, I said I would skip “gay” one more time, emphasizing that I was vehemently morally against it. 

He seemed deeply relieved. 

That night, Principal Eric Ashton from school 2 called to ask me not to say “gay” at his school. When I pushed back, he said I’d already agreed at Sharon. 

Tuesday 8/22/23, school 2: Daves Creek Elementary

I did not say “gay.” I was not okay with it.

Wednesday 8/23/23: before school

I woke up to a journalist request for an interview about my “recent reading at an elementary school and the school’s subsequent apology to parents after your (factual) comment about Bill Finger’s life.”

How did the press know? And what apology?

I searched online to find not one but two stories about this had already run—and neither source had contacted me for a statement:


I tweeted (Xed) both outlets: “When you are covering a story of an author being censored at a school, it’s journalism 101 to SPEAK TO THE AUTHOR WHO WAS CENSORED.”

Here is that apology, which the Sharon Elementary principal had sent to his school families (which obviously include people in the LGBTQ community) on Monday:


Here is a progressive group called the Forsyth Coalition for Education condemning the apology:



Here is Forsyth superintendent Jeff Bearden backing up the principal:


I was livid.

The Sharon principal apologized that I said “gay,” as if I hurt people. That was backwards. What hurt people was his apology.

Before heading to school 3, I emailed the superintendent and Jennifer Caracciolo, Forsyth schools Chief Communications Officer, to invite them to attend one of my talks that day. Jennifer replied that she would be at talk 2.

Wednesday 8/23/23, school 3: Settles Bridge Elementary

Immediately after arriving, Principal Amber Lamb pulled me aside to ask me to follow the same procedure I did at Daves Creek. I asked if she meant don’t say “gay” and she indicated yes. 

I asked “If one of your students asks me if I’m married, may I say I have a wife?” 

She didn’t say no.

In my regretful effort to be a “respectful” guest at Sharon, I had a momentary lapse of backbone and agreed to prioritize the objections of a vocal and virulent adult minority over the well-being of their kids. But my conscience had come roaring back and I said I won’t be doing that again.

She said that they’d invited me to promote a love of reading, writing, and research. I said that’s precisely what I was there to do.

Then, somehow, we were walking down the hallway to the gym and soon after, I was delivering the first of my three scheduled talks. It was an emotionally intelligent, enthusiastic audience. They cheered and applauded not only when I finished but also at various reveals throughout. They got it.

I said “gay.”

I noticed no reaction.

My presentations conclude with a Q&A session; it’s built into the schedule. When the kids were applauding at the end, the principal stood beside me. I asked her if we had time for questions—knowing we did—and she said no. Sensing more (preemptive) censorship, I turned to the kids and asked “Y’all want to ask questions?” The room screamed “Yes!” and hands shot up. 

The principal—who, you may recall, had asked me to promote a love of reading, writing, and research—stuck with no. It’s harder to promote a love of reading, writing, and research in kids when you can’t answer their questions about those topics.

This group of kids left and the second group did not arrive as scheduled. I was told they were sorting out a scheduling glitch. Amber, Jennifer, and I were alone in the gym.

Amber reiterated that I would have to adhere to their “standards.” I said “You just saw how these kids responded to my story. And that’s your first comment?” She seemed flustered.

I pointed out that her students clapped wildly when I showed an image of a police report. A dusty old document. Handwritten. You wanted to pump them up about research, right?

She complimented the talk, then again said (paraphrasing) “don’t say ‘gay.’”

I said I will no longer agree to that.

Jennifer said it’s about standards—sexual orientation is not part of curriculum for elementary students. I said neither is Batman—but more to the point, I reminded them that I did not give a talk on sexual orientation, and that sexual orientation is not sex.  

They were hiding behind “standards” to deflect that prohibiting the word “gay” is discriminatory.

Jennifer also said it’s about age appropriateness. She gave an example—which she would later repeat to press—that we adults would not describe the horrors of the Holocaust to kindergartners. 

As if their talk track wasn’t already misguided enough.

I shut that down without mercy, asking her not to compare how one person loves another to genocide. 

I tried to convey what I thought was already obvious: the benefit of my presentation for hundreds of kids should far outweigh the time and energy required to field outraged calls they would invariably get from two or three or even a dozen parents. I felt terrible that these big-hearted students would be denied a special experience due to the prejudices of their supposed caretakers.

Yet open-minded people must go into communities where intolerance is legislated or otherwise encoded and speak up within that community. We can’t stay away in protest or out of disgust, because then people who need our message may never get it.

The two administrators and I spoke for what felt like ten minutes. When I finally accepted that I would not be able to assure them that my content is fully appropriate, as I’d managed to do in other scenarios, I said that I could not give my talks. They agreed. 

Whether my presentations were censored or cancelled, it would shortchange the kids. Ultimately I felt that the best way to help those kids would be to leave.

So I left.

My parting shot to the adults: you are on the wrong side of history.

By the end of that day, I’d met with four of the many members of the Forsyth Coalition for Education and spoken to reporters from four outlets including the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.



Then came the public response:




(grammatically corrected) excerpt from a direct message on Facebook:

Do you have a criminal record? Do you get some kind of satisfaction from talking to 8-year-olds behind their parents’ back? Some people are calling you a groomer. Is that what you are? 

You are a villain. 

Here’s an idea: instead of sneaking your bizarre, obsessive view on sexuality into your speeches, why don’t you ask parents for permission to have a conversation about sexuality with their child while they aren’t around. How do you think that will go? 

It wouldn’t go well. Because only perverts would ask that.

Several Forsyth folks showed their disapproval by reacting to dozens of my Facebook posts with the laughing emoji, till I blocked them.

I directly replied to none of the vitriol—except this Instagram comment:

Schools are not the place for what he is promoting. Take it somewhere else.

me:

I was promoting persistence, primary research, reading, speaking up for others, giving credit where it’s due, and tolerance. Which topic in particular do you think I should take somewhere besides schools?

On the Facebook page for the first of at least two Forsyth County News articles about this, I posted this comment:

I’m the author who said gay in talks to elementary students. I also said Every change in history, no matter how big, starts with one person. I’m glad to see there are many people in this conversation who are speaking up for marginalized communities.

message from a Forsyth County parent:

You gave a presentation at my son’s school (Sharon Elementary). He came home raving about you/your book. Literally, he dropped his backpack and then proceeded to deliver a 15+ minute speech to me about the amazing author visit. I don’t think he’s ever connected that much with an author. 

I replied to the principal[‘s email] with my concerns that the word “gay” required an apology (especially in light of the fact that my kid hears it at school about five times a day on average—spend 10 minutes in the classroom and one will know that it seems to be the insult of choice amongst the upper elementary set: “that’s so gay,” “your mom is gay,” etc.). At least I know that one of the times he heard it on Monday, it was delivered in the manner in which it should be: a harmless fact.

message from a Forsyth County resident:

Hey, buddy…I see you’ve become infamous in FoCo. :) I know what it’s like…I’m a drag queen here. I hope you know we’re not all insane people… 

message from a stranger from parts unknown:


other coverage:





The New Abnormal (The Daily Beast)
available wherever you stream podcasts; here, my segment begins at 40:57

The Guardian 12/22/23
(part of a year-end round-up of censorship in education)

And twice in the New York Times daily newsletter “The Morning”:



I emailed this to the five leaders involved:

Hello Jeff, Jennifer, Brian, Eric, and Amber,

The response to you putting standards over empathy and honesty in Forsyth County schools has been overwhelming—and overwhelmingly condemned, from both friends and strangers, Forsyth parents and people worldwide

Here, however, are comments I’m getting from a small group of people who agree with your decision (none of whom heard my talk, read my book, saw my film, or met me):

[see above for images of the negative messages]

Groomer. Villain. Pervert. Creep. “Who raised you?”

I came to your community in good faith to share an inspirational message. Brian, Eric, and Amber: you experienced that firsthand and saw the enthusiastic way the kids reacted. Even the kids who heard “gay.”

The inaction of Forsyth County leadership sanctions the defamatory (and, objectively, unhinged) accusations your supporters are publicly making about me.

These are the people whose position you are protecting, even though these are not the people whom you make feel unwelcome in your district?

These are not the victims. They have not and will never suffer because other people love differently than they do. Apparently the Forsyth County standards also prohibit the Golden Rule.

When you have to choose between the comfort of tolerant or intolerant people, and when one of those groups is in real danger, there is no choice. 

You gave in to the wrong side, and if you continue to do that, your legacy will be on the wrong side of history. Plus upholding discriminatory practices like you did this week will drive more and more good educators and families from your district.

But you can still turn this around by doing the following:

    • apologizing to your community for the apology 
    • apologizing to your community for censoring an established author who’s been doing this sensitively across 30 states and nearly 20 countries for 20+ years
    • challenging the standards that stigmatize the word “gay” in a country where same-sex marriage is legal and a county where gay people live

If your own conscience is not screaming at you to try to heal the wounds you’ve created, hopefully the compassionate perspective of the majority will.

German Lutheran pastor Martin Niemöller, 1946:

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

With apologies to Olivia Rodrigo:

10/1/23 addendum: Just over a month later, it happened again, in Texas.