Showing posts with label Scooby-Doo. Show all posts
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Monday, March 14, 2016

Bill Lutz, original writer of Scooby-Doo (1969-70)

Scooby-Doo and I go way back.

drawing I made in 1980

But it wasn't till several years after I ran this series of interviews with voice actors and musicians involved with the first seasons of the character that I realized I had never looked into my counterpart—the writer of the first season.


His name was Bill Lutz, and to quote his granddaughter, "Bill is Scooby-Doo's biggest mystery."

He is credited with writing all of season 1 of Scooby-Doo, Where Are You? On 7/17/15, after asking around about Bill for a few months, I found out via the Writers Guild of America that he died on 9/8/73. Scooby was four years old. I was only one.

The WGA kindly forwarded a request from me to the name on file for Bill. Soon after I heard from a young woman named Amanda Lapsansky, Bill's only known grandchild. (Sound familiar? Right down to the first name…)

She told me the following:


  • Bill was an only child, the father of Amanda's father Jan (who often went by Jon) and Amanda's uncle Gary
  • Jan died in 2010
  • Gary had no children and died in the '90s
  • Amanda didn't know her dad; he left when she was two and battled alcohol, same as Bill; it's why Bill died early
  • Amanda met her dad only when he was dying
  • Bill's wife (Amanda's grandma) had a new partner in late '80s; she died in early '90s
  • Amanda inherited everything her grandma had…but, as you will see, that included sadly nothing of Bill

Interview with Amanda:


photo by Katelyn Folmar

What is your relationship to Bill Lutz?

Bill Lutz was my grandfather on my father's side. My father was his eldest son, Jan (Jon).

You were born after he died. What do you know about his life (childhood, marriage, career)?

I sadly know nothing of his childhood or provenance. I know he was a young writer in Brooklyn when he met my grandmother, Jane, a Polish immigrant working as a seamstress at a department store. They married and he became a writer on the game show Queen for a Day.


 Bill is possibly in this photo.

As the entertainment industry continued its migration to Los Angeles, my grandparents followed, settling in Sherman Oaks. It was then that his career really began to surge, and he was asked to write for The Lucy Show, The Addams Family, and perhaps most iconically, Scooby-Doo. He wrote the entire first season (Scooby-Doo, Where Are You?).

He and my grandmother had a happy marriage for a long time, but in the sixties, they both fell prey to alcoholism. My grandmother was able to rehabilitate. Sadly, my grandfather was not. They divorced in the late sixties. He died of kidney failure caused by alcoholism in 1973 [9/8]. He left it largely unchecked and untreated and died suddenly while working out at a local gym. Sadly, his eldest son [Amanda's father] would die exactly as his father did, of liver and kidney failure, in 2009.

Though Bill had his demons, he was quite devoted to his family and was active in his church. It's hard to know if his faith was true and personal, or if church was simply something one did, but he did contribute his time and his writing talents to his church community. It's a shame that his talent and his love were damaged by addiction.

Who told you the stories you know about Bill?

My mother and my maternal grandmother have told me everything I know so far.

What other family does he have left?

As far as I know, I am the last surviving member of the Lutz family.

Before I contacted you, did you know he wrote the first season of Scooby-Doo?

I knew he wrote for the show, but did not realize until recently that he wrote the whole first season. That was a pretty exciting revelation.

Do you get royalties, and if so, how often and for what?

I do get royalties whenever shows that he wrote are aired. I normally get about thirty cents to ten dollars an episode, depending on the popularity of the show and the amount of writers. The checks come sporadically and range from thirty cents to fifteen hundred dollars. The larger checks tend to come from France and Italy, where apparently, Scooby-Doo and Addams Family reruns and marathons are quite popular.

What possessions of Bill's do you have?

I have his Queen for a Day business card, as well as some love letters he wrote to my grandmother. I have a short children's story he wrote and a recording of him reading it aloud on vinyl. There are a few more small things that have nothing to do with his career, and apparently a box in storage that will hopefully hold some treasures.

What do you think when you learned someone wanted to interview your family about Bill?

I was quite surprised because I never knew him and never really knew any part of that family. It's hard to measure the impact of someone who was behind the scenes and died while he still had so much to contribute to the entertainment industry. Yet I was also excited, because I knew that his work has become part of the cannon of American pop culture. It's good to see some recognition. It's nice to not be the only person who knows what he did.

Anything you'd like to add?

His life did end tragically. His addiction ruined so much of what was good in his life, and the specter of alcoholism from both he and my grandmother created a black hole in the family line. I was able to escape because I was raised by my mother and maternal family, and most everything about me comes from them. It is easy to focus on the sad or painful moments of his life, but it's important to remember, at least for myself, that his work helped bring joy to so many people. I have to believe that's worth something.

Interview with John Gustafson, a friend:

Please introduce yourself and your career.

After high school, I enlisted in the United States Air Force and was a B17 Navigator. After the service, I graduated from UCLA in 1948 as a mathematics major. I spent a few years in the motion picture industry in the era of major musicals. My work in musicals included solo work in Brigadoon and Kismet and choral work in Oklahoma! and My Fair Lady. From 1956 to 1975, I was Pastor of Worship at 1st Baptist Church of Van Nuys, Van Nuys, California.

What was your relationship to Bill Lutz?

I met Bill Lutz in the late 1950s. He attended 1st Baptist Church. In the '60s and early '70s, his son Jan was on the youth staff of the Church.  Bill wanted to use his talent to help in the music ministry, thus he wrote two Christmas scripts and helped direct the productions. Bill Lutz was very helpful to me in those years!

What kind of person was Bill?

He was a winsome person, unassuming, didn't seem to care about credit for what he did to help us.
 
Any funny/interesting anecdotes about Bill?

No.

Do you happen to remember anything related to Bill's work on Scooby-Doo? His inspirations? His thoughts on the finished product?

No.

Do you remember hearing that Bill died?

Yes, however I don't remember how I heard.

Do you have any photos of Bill?

No.

What did you think when you learned someone wanted to interview you about Bill?

I was surprised and possibly didn't realize what an important person he was.

What are you doing these days?

I retired from Grace Bible Church in Sun City, Arizona in December 2005, at the age of 82.

Anything you'd like to add?

I'm afraid I haven't been a lot of help to you in this project. I wish you much success in this noble venture!


Bill Lutz, where are you? (said in Shaggy's voice, of course)

8/1/18 addendum: someone I don't know emailed me Bill's obituary...with photo!


Thursday, May 8, 2014

Three people I interviewed who get a lot of attention

Of the numerous beloved people from pop culture (books, movies, TV, music) I’ve interviewed over the last few years, three seem to generate more engagement than the rest (by which I mean more comments on the blog and more emails to me):


An unlikely trio!

Sunday, September 22, 2013

The Cheshire Dog

In 2011, I tracked down and interviewed Larry Marks, the singer of the original Scooby-Doo theme song. But it wasn't until recently that I learned that Larry (who grew up in New York City) went to Cheshire Academy, a prep school in my hometown, Cheshire, CT. He was graduated from there in 1962. I wasn't around yet, but still found this overlap fun.

Larry Marks, age 16, at Cheshire Academy; photo courtesy of Leah Marks

Tuesday, October 11, 2011

Super ‘70s and ‘80s: “Scooby-Doo, Where Are You!”—Heather Kenney (North) (Daphne 2, beginning in season 2, 1970)




What were you doing professionally before you were cast as Daphne?

I had worked since I was 11 years old in everything from TV episodes to theatre and musicals. At the time, I was a recurring character on Days of Our Lives.

What were you told and/or shown about the show before auditioning? Did you know what Daphne would look like?

I wasn’t the first Daphne, but their original left to get married. When they went to recast, I ended up going to the audition because of my roommate Nicole [Jaffe] (see answer two questions down).

How old were you in 1970, which was, I believe, the year you started on Scooby?

I was going on 20.


Did you know any of the other voice actors on the show beforehand?

I went on the audition with Nicole Jaffe, my roommate at the time, who ended up becoming Velma.

How would you describe Daphne?

She was a pretty and sincere girl who had a penchant for being “danger prone”!

Did you like the show?

I did.

Do you have a favorite episode?

I most liked the episodes with guest stars: Batman, the Globetrotters, Jonathan Winters, Dick Van Dyke, Phyllis Diller, etc.

Any funny anecdotes about working on the show that you’ve told to friends over the years?

Most of us would use our breaks to get coffee or use the bathroom. Not Casey Kasem! He was always on the phone arranging a deal. We all loved him!

Did the voice actors ever joke about the show and the characters—i.e. if Fred and Daphne were a secret item, if there was drug innuendo like so many people speculate, etc.?

No, it never even occurred to us!

Did you do any appearances for Scooby-Doo at the time?

No.

Did you receive any fan letters while you were on the show?

A few.

What did you do after you left the show?

I had already become a wife and mother, and I focused on that.

What are you doing these days professionally?

I am retired.

What do you like to do when not working?

I participate in my church’s women’s and community service programs and continue to take good care of my family.

Do you have children?

One son, Kevin. [NOTE: Special thanks to Kevin, through whom I arranged this interview.]

What did he think growing up with a mom who played an iconic character?

For my son and grandchildren, it has always been a nice “claim to fame” because the show maintained its popularity for so long.

Any funny stories about your kids’ friends when they learned your Daphne connection?

There is one pair of little boys from our family who always referred to me as “Gramma Scooby-Doo” growing up.

Do you ever rewatch your Scooby-Doo episodes? If so, how do you think they hold up?

I don’t, but they clearly have stood the test of time!

Did you stay in touch with any of the other Scooby-Doo voice actors after you left the show? Are you in touch with any still?

Not really, though I did attend Casey Kasem’s star induction on the Hollywood Walk of Fame many years afterward.

How similar to your everyday voice was your Daphne voice?

Fairly similar, but I added energy and a little higher pitch.

Have you ever been recognized on the street by voice as Daphne?

No.

Have you ever been interviewed about your Scooby-Doo work before, and if so, when/where? Do you remember the earliest instance?

Yes, for both DVD releases and other interviews.

screen shot from bonus material on
Scooby-Doo, Where Are You!: The Complete Series DVD

Do you own any Scooby-Doo memorabilia (dolls, books, DVDs, etc.)?

Quite a bit…certain action figures and original drawings, things of that nature.

Do you have any of your original Scooby-Doo paperwork—scripts, your contract, letters from Hanna-Barbera, birthday cards from the cast, fan letters (from the 1970s), etc.?

I do, including the “Scooby-Doo Bible” (the handout which explains the characters, plotline, etc.).

Do you have a continuing relationship with Warner Bros. re: Scooby-Doo? For example, have you been invited to the live action movie premieres, etc.?

No.

Do you still receive residuals for Daphne?

Yes.

Would you be open to appearing at a pop culture convention to meet fans and sign autographs? (Have you already done that?)

Nope [to both].

How do you look back at your time on Scooby-Doo?

Very fondly.

Did you have any sense at the time that this show would have such staying power?

Certainly not!

Addendum: Heather died on 11/29/17.

Next (and last): Mick Smiley, singer-songwriter of "Magic" from Ghostbusters.

Monday, October 10, 2011

Super ‘70s and ‘80s: “Scooby-Doo, Where Are You!”—Nicole David (Jaffe) (Velma 1, 1969-74)

Introduction to series “Super ‘70s and ‘80s.” 

Introduction to subseries “Scooby-Doo, Where Are You!” (including list of interviewees).


What were you doing professionally before you were cast as Velma?

I was doing You’re a Good Man, Charlie Brown. The people from Hanna-Barbera—director Gordon Hunt—came to see the show. I must’ve sort of looked like the girl.

Did he approach you after the show?

Yes, he sort of said something after the show and then my agency called me and said he wanted to meet me. They showed me the drawings and gave me lines to read. They must have shown pictures of Velma. She looked like me enough that I could see why he wanted me to come in. He hired me.

What were you told and/or shown about the show before auditioning?

I don’t know if you should write this. In those days, I wanted to be Daniel Day Lewis, Emma Thompson. I was not interested in being in voice-over. I needed to make a living and wasn’t doing anything else at the moment. [With Scooby-Doo], I didn’t think I was doing something iconic. It was like getting a soap opera when you wanted to be in a Scorsese film. I thought it was like a drive-by.

How old were you in 1969?

I don’t remember but young. In Charlie Brown, I played Peppermint Patty. I could see afterward why [Hanna-Barbera] wanted me. I played Patty like a know-it-all, which I guess I am. That character is kind of like Velma. [But] she was sweeter than Velma.

Did you know any of the other voice actors on the show beforehand?

No. The only person I knew was Heather North, but neither of us had any idea what this would be like. Heather was more of a girl next door. She was a great girl. I assumed everyone would look like their character on some level. I don’t even think I thought about the dog. I thought this was a stepping stone to paying my rent and I would go off and do greater things.

Did you socialize with them at the time?

Never. I don’t know what voice people are like today but in those days, I thought they were kind of weird. Somebody of 40 was playing somebody of 20. Somebody was playing a dog. It wasn’t like doing a movie when everybody bonds. Before the show, Heather was on Days of Our Lives. I don’t know how we met. We shared an apartment on Crescent Heights. But I didn’t consider her a voice person. I considered her a normal actress.

You were not living together when on the show?

I don’t think so. Heather would remember.

Did you like the show?

I loved Mr. Barbera. He was very handsome. I loved Gordon Hunt. They were two really regular terrific people. They were very nice to us.

What about the show itself? 

I don’t really remember. I can tell you when I first really appreciated the show for real. I met Lauryn Hill (the singer) and she must’ve found out that I did that show and she was so impressed. She happens to be really smart. She was an amazing young woman. When she started saying how great the show was, I watched three or four episodes to figure out what she was talking about. That was many years [after I was on it]. I would say twenty years ago. [When I was on it], I certainly didn’t understand the things everybody [would talk] about later. I was not smart enough when I was young. I had no idea that I was stoned eating those snacks [refers to Scooby Snacks]. Not because I wasn’t ever getting stoned. [But in general] this was not my life. I was in acting class with Lee Strasberg. I knew about great acting. I didn’t know anything about voice actors. Heather is probably a better judge.

Do you have a favorite episode? 

I don’t.

Any funny anecdotes about working on the show that you’ve told to friends over the years?

One of the highlights was that they fed us. They gave us expensive cookies. This was an amazing thing. I had no money. I remember thinking they must be very rich. I remember how really good Casey Kasem and everybody was at their jobs. They changed from one voice to another in an amazing fashion.

Have you had interaction with them since the show ended?

I think all the original cast got called back to do a few more of the movies. That was maybe five years ago. That was the first time I saw anyone since the day we finished. That was very different this time. I was glad I didn’t have to do it anymore. I could see that my voice had changed. It’s lower now. I didn’t do it anywhere near as well as I had done it before. I also noticed that I liked my character after Lauryn Hill said she liked my character. Other people over the years have told me about my character.

Were you using your real voice for Velma?

No, I created a voice. It wasn’t that far away but I created a voice.

Were you all recording at the same time in the same room?

I don’t remember. The most recent time I think we all were at a table with mikes. When I auditioned I was in a booth.

Did the voice actors ever joke about the show and the characters—i.e. if Fred and Daphne were a secret item, if there was drug innuendo like so many people speculate, etc.?

No. I didn’t care if they were an item.

Did you do any appearances for Scooby-Doo at the time?

I don’t think so. I was busy. I don’t know if they did. When I came back all those years later, the difference between Casey between any other star was that he knew was a star and he was treated like a star. Not a bad thing because he was famous.

Did you receive any fan letters while you were on the show?

Yes. I still receive fan letters and people asking for autographs.

Still have any of the 1970s ones today?

No, I threw them out. I wouldn’t have kept them.

What did you do after you left the show? 

I think I did a movie with Elvis Presley. I’m not sure if that came first. [NOTE: That came first.]


I realized on that movie that I did not like acting. I wasn’t very good and wasn’t interested in being good but I was interested in helping people that were good. Someone suggested I agent—[which I did] and I loved it.

What are you doing these days professionally? Still agenting?

I am. I work with music people, actors for movies, TV, and whatever they want to do. Not voice-overs. [clients have included Elijah Wood, Alicia Keys, Whitney Houston, John Travolta, Emma Thompson, Lauryn Hill, Melanie Griffiths, Cher, Patrick Swayze, Roseanne]

A few notes from a 1/13/96 article in The Independent (UK) that add to Nicole’s background:

  • almost always on phone
  • five feet tall
  • “one of Hollywood’s most powerful”
  • can influence how a script is written
  • high school dropout
  • born in Canada
  • met shoe salesman Arnold Rifkind, who had sharp business mind; combined with her understanding of actors, they formed small talent agency which was eventually bought by William Morris
  • “both are now rich”
  • “I would not be good at having kids and I know having them would make me a worse agent. But the quality of mothering is used in every aspect of my work.”

What do you like to do when not working?

I’m married. I like spending time with my husband. I like movies, reading, going for walks. I like working with Keep a Child Alive, a charity run by a wonderful woman that brings medicine to children with AIDS.


If you have children, how many/ages?

I do not have children.

Did you have any sense at the time that this show would have such staying power?

I didn’t have any sense of what the show was. I’m happy that children love it so much.

Have you ever been interviewed about your Scooby-Doo work before?

I have, once, but I’ve never given such an honest interview [as this one]. [That first time] I think I wrote my answers.

Do you own any Scooby-Doo memorabilia (dolls, books, DVDs, etc.)?

I think I may have some of those animation cels. I think I’ve sold most of them for charity or given them to children.

screen shot from bonus material on Scooby-Doo, Where Are You!: The Complete Series DVD

Do you have any of your original Scooby-Doo paperwork—scripts, your contract, letters from Hanna-Barbera, birthday cards from the cast, fan letters (from the 1970s), etc.?

Probably somewhere.

Do you have a continuing relationship with Warner Bros. re: Scooby-Doo? For example, have you been invited to the live action movie premieres, etc.?

I have really good relationships with Warner Brothers but not about Scooby-Doo.

Would you be open to appearing at a pop culture convention to meet fans and sign autographs?

Yes, I would. I think it’d be interesting; it’d be an education.

Have you been asked before?

I don’t think so. If you go to a convention, bring me with you.

Sunday, October 9, 2011

Super ‘70s and ‘80s: “Scooby-Doo, Where Are You!”—Rose Marie Mook and Nick Mook, widow and son of theme co-writer David Mook

Introduction to series “Super ‘70s and ‘80s.” 

Introduction to subseries “Scooby-Doo, Where Are You!” (including list of interviewees).


[NOTE: “Mook” rhymes with “book.”]

Rose Marie Mook:

Tell me about David.

He was born in Brooklyn. He was very well educated. He went to the best schools. He loved music from when he was young. When he graduated from NYU, he decided to go into music. He was going to be an English teacher but he visited his cousins from Austria who founded the [music] company Hill and Range in New York City. They loved country-western music. One day around 1961 David walked up there, said I’m looking for work, and I’d love to learn. So they hired him. They were really the best in the business. They were famous, doing things that no one else did. They also signed Phil Spector, Burt Bacharach, many others. He was responsible for “Little Songs that Teach,” a book and record. When he passed away I had to renew the copyright to Scooby-Doo. When a composer passes away the next in line, which was myself, has to renew the copyright. He also produced The Banana Splits.

When was he born?

April 15, 1936.

How did he become involved with Scooby-Doo?

He did a lot of projects for Hanna-Barbera. We moved out here. He opened a music company, a California office of A. Schroeder. He started circulating, meeting the music people out here. Hanna-Barbera had this idea to do a cartoon show about a dog whose name was going to be Scooby. They called David and said we need a song and you’re going to write it with Ben Raleigh, one of their freelance songwriters. We need an opening song. It’s gotta be catchy. Ben lived in Palm Springs at the time. So David called him and said they want us to write this song together. He said it’s just a trial but we’ve got to give them something. He drove to Palm Springs on a Tuesday. They write the song, David brings it back, presents it to Hanna-Barbera, and they loved it. And the rest is history.

How do you remember it was a Tuesday?

Everything good that’s ever happened in my life has happened on a Tuesday.

Did Hanna-Barbera give David any visuals first?

Oh yeah. They called him over there. They showed him the diagram of the dog, went over the format.

Did David and Ben already know each other?

Yes, from New York and out here. They had met.

They wrote the song in a day?

In one day. David left early in the morning and was back that evening.

Did he perform it for you that night?

He sang the catchy tune to it.

David and Rose Marie Mook 1976

Did one write the music and one write the lyrics?

David wrote the lyrics and Ben wrote the music.

Did I read somewhere that they wrote the song the week the show was supposed to air?

Yes, it was very fast. [NOTE: Assuming Rose Marie is correct about David and Ben meeting on a Tuesday and the song being fast-tracked, and knowing that Scooby debuted on Saturday, September 13, 1969, this means we can pinpoint the exact date on which the Scooby theme was created: September 9, 1969. Those who know me know how much I love when an event can be triangulated like that.]

Do you remember watching it for the first time on TV?

Oh yeah. When they did the films a few years ago, they invited me to the premiere. I was so disappointed with what they did with the dog. He looked so devilish. David would’ve had a fit. In the cartoons he’s still adorable. Have you seen 127 Hours? My Scooby’s in that. I was thrilled that it was in there and the way that it was incorporated.

What instruments did David play?

Guitar, drums, and piano.

How many children do you have?

Two sons.

Were either born before Scooby-Doo debuted?

My older was born in 1967. He always watched.

Was this something special for David or just another job at first?

He never looked at anything as just another job. Everything he did was special. This is going to be weird for you but you know Charles Manson?

Yes.

Manson walked into my husband’s office peddling some demos he had! This was before all that happened. David looked at him and thought “This is a very strange person. I’ve got to get him out of my office.” David said he’d always listen to anybody’s material.

How soon after that did the horrible things happen with Manson?

About a year [after], I think.

Did David right away make the connection when the news broke about Manson?

Oh yes. He couldn’t believe it.

Did David ever say anything specific about the inspiration for the Scooby-Doo lyrics?

No. He knew the format and they just wrote.

What did writing the Scooby-Doo theme do for David’s career?

It did a lot. It boosted his career as a writer. But at the same time he had his own publishing company. He was independent so he was able to submit music to motion picture companies. His pride and joy was Randy Newman, who he discovered out of UCLA. When David came out here, he was looking for a doctor. Everyone in the business recommended a Dr. Newman. So David went to see him. Randy was still going to school at UCLA. David told Dr. Newman what he did and Dr. Newman said “My son is a genius, been composing since he was four years old, and if you don’t mind we’d love you to listen to his tapes.” David heard the music and loved it and signed him as an in-house writer. David sent one of Randy’s songs to the Beatles called “Simon Smith and the Amazing Dancing Bear.” And they recorded it. And that’s what broke Randy Newman into being a big star. It was on one of their hit albums. [NOTE: I found record of multiple artists covering the song, but not the Beatles. Rose Marie felt certain they had, so perhaps it’s actually an unreleased demo?]

Did he receive a flat fee or royalty for the Scooby-Doo theme?

Royalties for life.

Was that standard in the business then?

Yes, and it still is.

How does that exactly work? The song must run many times a day around the world…

It used to be a lot more. Now it gets picked up for different projects like commercials, movies. BMI keeps track of every time it airs. I’m very popular with them. David was a BMI writer. They have their sources on everything that’s played.

Was that song the most lucrative song that David worked on?

Yes, because it was completely his.

Shared with Ben, I presume?

50-50.

Any funny Scooby-Doo anecdotes, like how someone reacted when they learned David co-wrote the theme?

Everybody said “I grew up with that song!”

How did David react to people being so excited?

He was happy, he was cool. He was happy that it became a copyright for his family.

What do his kids think of that aspect of their dad?

My younger son works for a lot of people in the music business. Every time they hear “Mook,” they say was your dad David Mook? He was a great music man. He was a great writer and knew great talent.

Do you have grandchildren?

I have two granddaughters, one eight and one ten.

Are they Scooby-Doo fans?

They like it but they don’t watch it. Our 10-year-old likes iCarly. And the little one doesn’t like music at all.

David Mook 1994

When and how did David die?

He passed away in 1996. He was sick for five years with cancer.

What do you do for a living?

I’m a makeup artist. Presently I work in a salon and also do freelance.

Did David stay in touch with Ben Raleigh?

They would speak through the years. And whenever something [business-related] came up they would speak. Ben died three months after David did.

Are you in touch with the Raleigh family?

No. I never knew his widow. Ben was quite a bit older than my husband. His widow did sell her part of the catalog to Music Sales in New York. They came calling at my door and I said no, never, because that’s one thing David always said: “Never sell your copyright.” I’m the one that has final say on every project.

In touch with anyone else associated with Scooby-Doo?

Hanna-Barbera. Everybody at Warner/Chappell. They’re all my friends over there. Susan De Christofaro is a very good friend.

Do you have any Scooby-Doo memorabilia?

Not really. I have a couple of fun things—the dog on my desk. It’s not a stuffed animal. It’s kind of metal.

What about any notes, lyrics, etc., of David’s?

I don’t have anything on paper. I have it on CDs. I have the first time he sang the song on cassette. I have it put away somewhere. I think it was the one they presented. He kept a copy. They used to make a lot of copies.

Was David ever interviewed about Scooby-Doo?

I don’t think he was.

What did you think when you heard why I was contacting you?

I didn’t know what this was going to be about. I’m happy to interview. It was a year after David passed away when Scooby started to really come forward and become big. I got a lot of calls for commercials, films. I wish he was here to see this. Thanks for doing this wonderful thing.

Nick Mook:

When do you recall learning that your dad had something to do with Scooby-Doo?

Probably not until 1975 [Nick was born in 1971]. I remember that he wrote it and sang it, not the business details. I remember him dancing around the living room, playing the bass guitar and singing it to me as a kid. I found it very funny and never took him seriously.

Meaning he said he was the one who wrote it and you didn’t believe him?

I was a typical five year old. He used to sit in his underwear on Saturday mornings jamming with his bass guitar and amplifier, hitting the chords perfectly. Whenever the song came on, I’d yell from across the house for him to come and join in with me.

Was your brother involved?

He was around. But not jamming.

Were you a Scooby-Doo fan as a kid?

Big time. Hooked on it. I vividly remembering all the artist friends of my dad. I was one of the first latchkey kids and I would sit watching Scooby-Doo and other cartoons with a bowl of cereal.

How much of your fondness for Scooby-Doo came on your own and how much was related to your dad?

A good 80% was on my own. When they made the newer one in the ‘80s with Scrappy, it wasn’t the same. I remember all my friends from elementary to high school, when I told them about my dad’s involvement, everybody was just amazed by it.

Do you remember any anecdotes involving your friends when they found out your dad co-wrote the Scooby-Doo theme?

In high school, when I was out with my friends, making mischief, partying, I would bring it up and it would be the big thing.

Do you feel your dad got proper credit for this accomplishment?

Not at the time. I think after he passed away it really came, when they started making the movie. It’s unfortunate that he was really never able to see it.

Do you think he recognized his own contribution to pop culture?

To some extent. That was one of his larger accomplishments in the industry. I think he would’ve been proud of the way it brought income in to support my mother.

So it was only with the movie that the income was more significant?

That’s right.

What is your dad best remembered for professionally?

I would say this one is really up there. Some of the music themes on television. He worked with Jimi Hendrix to Linda Ronstadt to quite a few different artists, but this is really up there for him.

Was he proud of it?

Absolutely. I know he was.

Do you have any Scooby-Doo paraphernalia?

No. I’m not the type of guy that would keep stuff like that. Nothing inherited from my dad. Just his sense of humor. He had a big one.

What do your kid(s) think of Scooby-Doo and their grandfather’s role in it?

She loves it. She thinks it’s great. She brags about it to her friends. And they go crazy, these 9- and 10-year-old girls.

So she watches Scooby-Doo?

You know what, she hasn’t. She knows the music. She saw the movie but she hasn’t seen the original ‘70s series. She’s not really into cartoons.

What do you do for a living?

I’m an arborist, a tree doctor. I work in high-end residential homes so I work with a lot of celebrities and the like. Beverly Hills, Bel Air, and the valley. I bump into a lot of people that my dad knew.

What did you think when you first heard why I was contacting you?

I thought it was great. I was surprised. I thought that it was a dying thing. I thought it was very interesting that you picked up on this. There were a lot of old guys that made a huge impact on the industry that never were discussed.

Do you have the Scooby-Doo theme on your iPod/iPhone?

Uh…actually, no I don’t. But I don’t need it. I’ve got it in my head. I’ll have that for the rest of my life.

Saturday, October 8, 2011

Super ‘70s and ‘80s: “Scooby-Doo, Where Are You!”—Danny Janssen, producer



What’s your background?

I come from a family of ten children. I don’t remember my parents arguing a single time. I’ve buried most of my family. There are four left. I’m the youngest. The oldest has been dead for years. If she was alive, she’d been 95. My oldest brother is 93 years old. He’s still alive. They left me with all kinds of wonderful, warm memories.

My background is quite different than anyone you’ve run into. I’d compare myself to Clive Davis or Billy Rose. He was a business guy who did music. In 1971, I made $11 million dollars and only $1.5 million of it was from music.

I was a master teacher in Chicago and California, which means I taught other people to teach. That’s as high as you can go without being a principal. The last year I was teaching school I was paying far more in taxes than I was earning.

I was a really good athlete. I was asked to play pro football in Canada. I’m too small for that.

We did 14 [TV] series. There was a time when I believe we were number one in all four time slots [on Saturday morning] and then we went on to do The Partridge Family, which was number one for five consecutive years. I have an honorary doctorate and it was given to me for some of the work that we’re talking about but other work, too.

What was your role on Scooby-Doo?

We wrote all the songs and produced them. I was the head producer.

1973 (from BMI Magazine)

How old were you at the time?

I was in my twenties. I think 27.

What was your business besides music?

A partner and I owned 23,000 acres of land in California.

How did you get involved with Scooby?

They asked me do the show. I wrote things like [sings] “C’mon, Get Happy” [for The Partridge Family]. You know it. There was a show called Josie and the Pussycats. I interviewed 68 girls and I picked three of them to be the main ones. One was Patrice Holloway; she [co-]wrote [sings] “You’ve Made Me So Very Happy.” She was black. And no one had ever used a black person [for animation]. My dad was a minister. I was taught everybody is equal. I didn’t notice she was black. She was the best singer. Another girl picked by me you know as Cheryl Ladd. The third singer was operatic. Austin [Roberts] would know her name. He paid more attention to the women. [laughs]

When I picked Patrice, Hanna and Barbera called me down to the office. I didn’t need the money. I was a multi-millionaire before I walked in there. I was in my twenties. I might have had more money than either of them. They said good news and bad news: We’re going do the show but we can’t use Patrice because she’s black. I said I can’t do that because it’s against my religion. I can’t tell Patrice she can’t do it because she’s black. About three weeks later they called me down. I said, “You got a new show?” They said, “No, we’re going do Josie and the Pussycats.” I said, “Don’t do that to me. I won’t do it unless Patrice does it. Just paint the storyboard black.”

Did Patrice know what you did on her behalf?

Obviously, they were all there. I’m the one who didn’t realize what I was doing. I was just doing my job.

I mean did she know you threatened to walk off the project unless they hired her?

I don’t think Patrice knew I refused to work on the show unless she was hired. [Back to Scooby-Doo], I came down to do the first segment of Josie and I couldn’t get a place to park more than 2-3 blocks from the studio. I go in there and Elvis and all these others had sent over their bands. And the guy who was the fifth Beatle. Billy Preston. [NOTE: I didn’t get the connection between this last anecdote and the Josie story, but I left it in because it’s cool in and of itself.]

They liked Josie so much they wanted to do Scooby-Doo.

When we did Scooby, my friend who became the president of the union Local 44—we grew up together—he said I got a kid I want you to meet. His name’s Austin Roberts. He said Austin has a good commercial voice. He ended up singing the theme. Austin and I kind of rewrote that whole song for them. I don’t want to make fun of them but Hoyt Curtin and those guys wrote it. [NOTE: The songwriters of the original theme were David Mook and Ben Raleigh, though Hoyt Curtin wrote other Hanna-Barbera themes, including a later Scooby-Doo one.] It was a little flat. We were more commercial writers and gave that to them.

What did you think about the concept?

I enjoyed Scooby. I brought Austin in. I enjoyed children. The only thing I didn’t like—the dog. I wanted a more talkative dog. They had a bird that gets killed in the segment. I said let the bird go on. That became the Road Runner. [NOTE: I didn’t get the bird reference and Road Runner debuted in 1949; perhaps he was mixing up stories?]

You know why I did Scooby-Doo? You’ll never guess.

Why?

I had an awful lot of fun teaching kids. When I was going to leave teaching, 40 years ago, the principal of my school said I should also be a principal. I said I can’t. He said, “Will you promise me you won’t forget the children? You’re so good with them.” Every year ever since, I’ve done something for kids including series like Josie and the Pussycats and Scooby-Doo and The Partridge Family.

Do you have children?

I never could have children because I got hurt playing football. People [would say], “That must be great having all those gold records.” But then people said, “What are you doing for Christmas?”

What were [Scooby-Doo theme co-writers] David Mook and Ben Raleigh like?

Who was David Mook? I’ve heard the name David Mook, maybe from Austin. [NOTE: I told Danny who they were and he didn’t remember them but most likely because their paths never crossed; David and Ben had written the song before Danny became involved with the show.]

Did you also work with Larry Marks [who sang the theme for the first season]?

I don’t know Larry Marks.

Why was the theme rerecorded for season 2?

We were better. I don’t remember Larry Marks. I’m sure he’s a nice guy. I always thought the year we came there was the first year they did it, until you just said it. Part of it’s just my attitude. You got to believe in yourself. [NOTE: He then clarified that he means no disrespect to Larry Marks, whose version of the theme he was not familiar with.]

Did you have a favorite of those songs?

Not honestly, no. I have 478 songs out there. It’s hard for me to remember.

What are you doing these days?

It’s hard for me to explain to you in a minute or two so I won’t really try, but there’s been an industry trying to be built for the last 12 years and I’ve been watching it. It involves holograms and billboards. They asked me to help them build this Canadian corporation and I said I will if I can stay home. Once in a while I’ll go down to the studio. We do experimental things at malls. They do digital signage in the malls and the advertisers are concerned because they want guarantees of the exposure they’ll get a month.

So it’s a digital way to track or count customers in a mall?

Not track them. Not count them.

I’m not clear on just what you mean. Can you say what industry?

I don’t care to. I can tell you [when] we’re far enough along. The only people right now who can compete with us are guys like Steven Spielberg and he’s not looking to do it. I told [my business partners] I’d help build this company if they’d just leave me alone. [laughs]

I take care of a gal, Sheri, who used to be married to a guy in Supertramp. I traveled for almost two years with her husband. He was divorced from Sheri. They’d married way too young, at 17. They had a cute little boy. Now he looks Tom Cruise. The boy really liked me. He’d been living with his dad. He wanted me to meet his mother. I said alright. In 1992, at the restaurant at the Plaza Hotel in Los Angeles, right when I was [walking to her table] to meet her, and I don’t remember this, I went into a coma for 11 days. It was a full-fledged heart attack. I actually died. Sheri got a fireman and policeman to give me mouth-to-mouth because 911 couldn’t get there in time. She saved me. She came to the hospital every day. She took care of me. She paid my bills. [Then] she came down with multiple sclerosis. We spent $40,000 to redo a room in my house for her. I’ve taken care of her for [the past] 18 years. She’s 58 now. She’s been bedridden for 6 years. She can’t walk anymore. She’s a friend, not my wife.

[NOTE: We had a side talk about this in which I said how touching I found both of their actions.]

What was your reaction when you heard why I was contacting you?

I didn’t think anything. Scooby-Doo to me is like playing football when I was a kid. I enjoyed it [but it was not a defining moment for me]. Our beach house was in the middle of [homes of] Ryan O’Neal, Bob Dylan, others. My ex-wife used to throw parties [when I got] gold records. There’d be over 100 people there. She was well-liked. [Meanwhile] I’d be in the back room working on something else. I was never a social guy. I got a letter from Lastrada [Entertainment] about you. Sometimes it takes me a year to get to things. [NOTE: Lastrada was one of the companies I had contacted to try to reach Danny, though ultimately I got to him another way.]

Have you been contacted before for an interview about Scooby?

No. My biggest fear is you say something to somebody and it comes in backwards. Somebody wrote I was the first to bring blacks into animation. But I wasn’t a fighter. I liked Hanna and Barbera. I just had a different philosophy of life.

Have you heard from Scooby fans?

People occasionally want me to meet their kids for having done Scooby. When I got the honorary doctorate…I hate giving a speech. I look in the mirror and say, “Did you do all those things?” Truth: I didn’t do any of them. God did them through me.

From which university did you receive the doctorate?

One of the Concordias. In St. Paul, Minnesota. I spoke at the graduation in 1995 [May 27]. When I [was a student] there, it was just a small school. I went there for junior college. I went on to another school. I wanted to learn music.

Do you have any personal notes, letters, contract, etc. related to your Scooby work?

My next statement is going to come back to haunt me. [Scooby-Doo] just wasn’t a big enough deal to me. I did it because I loved kids. I never realized they’d be sending me money 41 years later. I’m sure there’s stuff out in the garage. All kinds of articles.

Are you still in touch with any of the people you worked with in music in the early 1970s, like Patrice Holloway or the Partridge Family cast?

Not even with Austin Roberts and I gave him his first gold record. [laughs] But he calls me and I return his calls.

How are you feeling these days?

My heart stopped and I died in 1992. I have an enlarged heart. My religion would not let me get a heart transplant or take any medication. The last operation I had was on January 10, 2000. Most people didn’t make it through the operation but I’m still here. I exercise every day.

[I asked for a “then” and “now” photo and later, after he’d sent them, he said the following]

I never let anyone take a picture of me. There’s a personal reason for that. I was brought up with a lot of Mafia guys. I didn’t want them to know what I was doing. When a friend heard I was sending you photos, he said “Boy, have you changed!”

Danny Janssen now

Anything you’d like to add?

In 1970, Bobby Engemann—[onetime] lead singer of The Letterman and one of the nicest guys I ever met—said I was one of a group of only 10 people who had written more than one gold record by himself. It’s been a really fun life. A line I wrote for the closing of a Christmas show was the most meaningful thing I ever wrote: “I wish people all around the world would have as much as me.”

Next: Rose Marie Mook and Nick Mook, widow and son of theme co-writer David Mook.